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Laid-off staffer punches boss, steps on his face

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A food services worker at Evanston Hospital who was told he was being laid off punched his supervisor in the face, knocked him to the ground and then stepped on his head, police said Thursday

 

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ndeepnow

Why no description? We could help look for this person.

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:11 AM EDT
Zoolopolis

Sad state of our economy that someone could get so upset losing such a lousy job.

  • 9 votes
#1.1 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:39 AM EDT
BXURZ

Even that lousy job may not ever come back for him with 15-25 million job hunters,..

  • 4 votes
#1.2 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:30 PM EDT
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BeckyalExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

This young man has problems; of course, many young people feel so entitled that they feel that they are owed jobs. No difference than the way that union members are acting these days.

  • 8 votes
Reply#2 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:15 AM EDT
Happily BLUE in Ohio

No difference than the way that union members are acting these days.

So by derivation, you are saying union members have problems? Cheap shot and definitely uncalled for, but then again, one must consider the source.

Seem more like a tactic from the (Rand Paul) teabaggers.

  • 32 votes
#2.1 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:23 AM EDT
Minan59

No difference than the way the tea party members are acting these days!

  • 19 votes
#2.2 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:23 AM EDT
Rixar13

Rand Paul Teabagger Stomps on Woman's Head - #2.1

  • 18 votes
#2.3 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:42 AM EDT
Fla Pat

No difference than the way that union members are acting these days.

Hundreds of thousands marching in protest over weeks of time with no violence in Wisconsin, and you make this statement? I guess everyone has an agenda.

  • 19 votes
#2.4 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:56 AM EDT
Super Ultra

To be honest, he's a low wage worker, and he might be anticipating the fact that he might now be hungry and homeless because the boss just took his @!$%#ty little job away. Unemployment is harder to get than you think in some states, and it's less than what you made at your job. Also, if you haven't looked around lately, jobs are still hard to get. My husband was ineligible when he got laid off because he hadn't worked at a job in our particular state for 18 months (we moved here for the job which laid him off without warning after 16 months) , nevermind that he worked for years and years in a neighboring state. People are desperate anymore. I don't condone what this guy did, but I understand it.

  • 15 votes
#2.5 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:19 AM EDT
tobiii

So by derivation, you are saying union members have problems

Derivation?

Take a look around you. The union, when it was created, was NEEDED.

Now? It's a scourge.

  • 5 votes
#2.6 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:56 AM EDT
bluearcher

The union, when it was created, was NEEDED.

Now? It's a scourge.

Please take Scott Walkers hand and arm out of your arse and stop being a parrot for conservative rhetoric.

Link the facts...if you have any.

  • 13 votes
#2.7 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:57 AM EDT
KDWill

You're saying unions are unnecessary now? I don't think so.

Report: As Union Membership Rates Decrease, Middle Class Incomes Shrink

  • 12 votes
#2.8 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:29 PM EDT
Davy-755715

This was a sad occurrence, but as times get worse and the middle class slide continues, we're only gonna see more similar ones.

  • 1 vote
#2.9 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:17 PM EDT
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a1623yankee

More bosses need their faces stepped on.

  • 21 votes
#3 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:22 AM EDT
greg-709692

Why ?

That "Civil" thing sure didn't last long, did it.

  • 9 votes
#3.1 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:25 AM EDT
goober.70

Why no description?

Now that's a dumb question!!! Don't you think they know who he is. What if he is a white right wing thug like, I assume, the guy that made this comment?

"More bosses need their faces stepped on."

  • 8 votes
#3.2 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:35 AM EDT
greg-709692

Don't assume goober. It's not a good thing. :)

  • 6 votes
#3.3 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:51 AM EDT
ndeepnow

He is on the run .. it doesn't matter if they know who he is ..

No .. if you don't like your boss quit your job .. or work harder so you can become the boss where someone will want to step on your face

  • 6 votes
#3.4 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:09 AM EDT
a1623yankee

More bosses need their hands stepped on, their feet stepped on and stepped on in general.

The days and methods of petty tyrants, abuse, rules after the fact, usury, personal intrusion and cover ups need to be stepped on.

The attitudes of wannabe hitlers, avaricious monsters, bullying beasts, acerbic, dark hearted, backbiting, tossers under the bus and violent despots need to be stepped on.

The whole culture of the 2% over the 98% needs to be stepped on.

The kickback of labor will only become more pronounced and violent as the thumbs of management get larger and larger, pushing down and down with unrelenting pressure to perform beyond human capability with less and less opportunity and less and less payment for effort. Take away a man or woman's livelihood in desperate times and bosses will get more and more of what they deserve.

This is nothing new folks and will only display more and more cornered animal response. Feigning outrage and disgust is utterly transparent. There is cause and effect here. Ignoring the effects while increasing the cause will only make matters worse. Point fingers, accuse and sidestep reality and responsibility at your own peril.

  • 14 votes
#3.5 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:24 AM EDT
greg-709692

will only display more and more cornered animal response.

Those that respond like an animal, haven't evolved then.

  • 7 votes
#3.6 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:33 AM EDT
a1623yankee

Those that FORCE the animal response have DEVOLVED!

  • 12 votes
#3.7 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:35 AM EDT
Par4TheCourse

Confucius say: Man who gets kicked in testicles, left holding the bag

The discussion here .. has "Devolved" into innuendo .. may we continue with topic in hand.. thanks!

  • 10 votes
#3.8 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:48 AM EDT
a1623yankee

Yankee say: One who is made desperate by the actions of another becomes a dangerous enemy.

  • 6 votes
#3.9 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:52 AM EDT
ndeepnow

a1623yankee .. you have serious problems .. you need to get you some help .. really someone needs to look in to you.

Sounds like you are threaten people ..

  • 7 votes
#3.10 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:53 AM EDT
Par4TheCourse

Yankee.... very well stated as it relates to the article.. and obviously to most but not to some.. is that you are correct.

  • 5 votes
#3.11 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:54 AM EDT
Plantsmantx

That "Civil" thing sure didn't last long, did it.

Nah, that "willing doormat" thing didn't last long at all, thank goodness.

  • 12 votes
#3.12 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:54 AM EDT
ndeepnowExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Your Boss should fire you over your statements. I wouldn't want someone like you to work for me. I would FIRE YOU ..

  • 3 votes
#3.13 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:54 AM EDT
Par4TheCourse

ndeepnow

As I was relating, and possibly it did not take on some that I tried to convey... that Personal Attacks is forbidden .. and you went ahead and did it anyway...I was trying to be very nice about it... You can Generally but not specifically say things towards any individual member on Newsvine. This is one of the aspects of the CoH... it is my fault for not making myself clear enough.

  • 3 votes
#3.14 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:58 AM EDT
Plantsmantx

I wouldn't want someone like you to work for me. I would FIRE YOU

I don't doubt it, LOL. You wouldn't want anyone who can see through that rhetorical BS to work for you...I get that;).

  • 10 votes
#3.15 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:59 AM EDT
Par4TheCourse

Again... Newsvine CoH #1

Why do conversations have to "Devolve" into this aspect ..

  • 3 votes
#3.16 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:09 AM EDT
Plantsmantx

Into what aspect, exactly?

  • 1 vote
#3.17 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:12 AM EDT
Par4TheCourse

Personal - aspect.

  • 2 votes
#3.18 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:16 AM EDT
a1623yankee

ndeepnow

I take great pleasure eliciting responses like yours. I find it very gratifying to draw the poison out of the sores.

It may surprise you to know

ndeepnow that I was not once an employee in my entire adult working life. I came out of college and started my own business and was the "boss" from that point on. One apparent difference between you and I is that I read Dale Carnegie's "How To Win Freinds And Influence People" in high school and several times again while in college. I took its principles to heart and have lived by the Golden Rule as much as my emotions will allow ever since.

This country and the world is just chock a block FULL of business criminals today. It is full of the easy-outers (what I call the devious, lazy, conniving backbiting, greedy, hedonistic, narcissistic, me first a$$holes) like some responders in NV. This nation's version of the easy outers include a very large organized crime syndicate that I refer to as the gopsa nostras (my gosh, I do cherish nicknames so). These folks are the walking, talking embodiments of the easy outers, you know, those folks who will say anything, do anything, step on any person or group, take relentlessly while throwing others under a bus and just generally being the modern version of corporatists and vicious tyrants.

They are really all one in the same. Bullies, stealers, arrogant despots, thieves of society and the robbers of the poor. Nasty, ill tempered, power hungry "bosses" who hold no regard for the needs of others, who could care less if every person on earth lives or dies as long as they get theirs. I reiterate, "bosses".

It's not a safe thing to generalize and place ALL "bosses" into this category but there are enough that generalizing becomes safer than not generalizing. To the exceptions of the contemporary "boss" rule, I offer most sincere apologies for putting you unnecessarily in the column of evil. I wish you clear conscience and happy cameraderie like I enjoyed with my employees over the more than 50 years of trying.

As to the subject at hand, I don't know if this "boss" actually deserved a punch in the nose or a stomp on the head, but considering the general attitude displayed by MOST so-called bosses, and particularly the management variety that I've met in the last 30 years, he most probably did. To the rest of the easy outers, Dale Carnegie or not, I can only hope that you get your comeuppances as well.

  • 9 votes
#3.19 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:27 AM EDT
Hello WoodieDeleted
Par4TheCourse

There was this 'boss' of mine back in my high school days.. that earned a push and then a hard shove from me.. I regretted doing it.. and there wasn't any arrest or monetary value.. I did lose my job.. he had this habit of putting his arm around the shoulders of the people he was talking to.. and I asked him not to do it.. he persisted and I turned around and pushed him away... the next thing he did in 'his' act to calm the situation he did it again.. so I shoved him down onto the floor in front of 5-6 other people..

Yankee - You are right.. there are so many so-called business people today that are screwing us and the government.. more than many seem to think.. every day there are business owners being incarcerated for defrauding us and the government.... these people are the scum of the Earth... Doctors defrauding the health care system, tax accountants screwing their clients and the government.. the list goes on and on...

I can honestly understand your distaste for 'bosses' like that.. because they place a black eye on those who are honestly following the system...too many crooks are out there in some form or another.

  • 6 votes
#3.21 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:41 AM EDT
tobiiiDeleted
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  • 5 votes
#3.23 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:16 AM EDT
ndeepnow

a1623yankee .. then quit your job or get the other employees to stage a walk out until that supervisor is fired or better yet go above their head and tell someone higher up the ladder, but unless he/she is putting hands on you then no need to punch anyone.

    #3.24 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:08 AM EDT
    BXURZ

    Walk out,.. that's what unions are for,....

      #3.25 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:31 AM EDT
      Reply
      Rixar13

      "When they notified him of his pending non-employment, he became physically combative, and at that point, he punched his supervisor in the face and ribs, causing him to fall to the ground,''

      How do you like me now??? - Smile :-)

      More bosses need their faces stepped on.

      a1623yankee

      smile :-)

      • 10 votes
      Reply#4 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:37 AM EDT
      curious-284425

      Sounds like the boss picked the correct hot head to dump.

      • 10 votes
      Reply#5 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:38 AM EDT
      sdtyuksrykdfDeleted
      tzia62

      I think he's going to have a hard time getting another job, he sure won't get this one back.

      • 3 votes
      Reply#7 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:20 AM EDT
      curious-284425

      Guys like this can usually be spotted....and need to be weeded out. They make life uncomfortable for everyone. He would probably just as easily jump on a coworker who triggered his angry button.

      • 5 votes
      #7.1 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:26 AM EDT
      Little Sure Shot

      he sure won't get this one back.

      "I've just poisoned the boss! You don't think they won't fire me for that!" (Lily Tomlin, 9-5)

      • 2 votes
      #7.2 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:33 PM EDT
      BXURZ

      "I've just poisoned the boss! You don't think they won't fire me for that!" (Lily Tomlin, 9-5)

      That's already been trired,...

      Water-cooler moment of horror as disgruntled worker poisons colleagues (water cooler).

      http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6937394.ece

        #7.3 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:12 PM EDT
        Little Sure Shot

        I was merely doing a quote from a movie that I thought fit here, not making comparisons to other attempts.

        • 1 vote
        #7.4 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:43 PM EDT
        BXURZ

        No worries,... I'm just giving you the business,.. :)

          #7.5 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:00 PM EDT
          Reply
          hsquared-1401940

          I guess he either didn't want any unemployment benefits or was not eligible. Looks like he might have free room and board for awhile.

          • 4 votes
          Reply#8 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:45 AM EDT
          Emmadadog

          I think this guy really needs anger management classes because he just does not play well with others.

          Maybe a time out?

          I realize that this is a disturbing story and I hope the very angry young(?) man gets the mental help he obviously needs.

          Before all you nvers jump all over me for my insensitivity and callousness I just gotta say, "God told me to do it?" No? How 'bout "the devil made me do it?"

          Well, it worked for Bachmann.

            Reply#9 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:47 AM EDT
            TheyreAllCrooks

            Well at least the boss didn't have to go far for medical treatment...

            ...it's generally a good idea to have security around when you're firing people, especially in today's economy.

              Reply#10 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:14 AM EDT
              jbird

              These guys have been abusing workers since 08. People remember bad treatment you handed out, and the longer it goes on the more frustrated workers get. I've known abusive managers, and CEOs. If you treat your workers like crap, you deserve this! Workers don't have to sit and take it. We won't. Consider it our eureka moment.

              • 3 votes
              Reply#11 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:15 AM EDT
              curious-284425

              Doesn't sound like he hit the CEO. He hit a middle management guy who was just doing as he was told.

                #11.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:55 AM EDT
                tobiii

                I've known abusive managers, and CEOs. If you treat your workers like crap, you deserve this! Workers don't have to sit and take it. We won't. Consider it our eureka moment.

                This guy was a "food services worker". Let's keep that in perspective.

                This wasn't exactly a "skilled labor" position.

                  #11.2 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:16 AM EDT
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                  Steve-2081387

                  SEIU will probably make the hospital take this creep back.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#12 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:30 AM EDT
                  Honor and Harmony

                  wow what a petty little jab.

                  • 4 votes
                  #12.1 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:59 PM EDT
                  Plantsmantx

                  Yes, especially considering that in these situations, the food service departments are frequently outsourced to concessionaires, and aren't unionized.

                  • 2 votes
                  #12.2 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:29 PM EDT
                  Steve-2081387

                  This is Illinois, do you really think this guy isnt in the SEIU? I guess when they arrest him we will find out.

                  • 1 vote
                  #12.3 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:09 PM EDT
                  Reply
                  eric fuller

                  Gives a new meaning to "Take this job and shove it! Because I'm going to kick your butt!'

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#13 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:13 PM EDT
                  tobiii

                  all over a dishwashing job?

                  Manager still has his job....and our "hero" doesn't...

                    #13.1 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:06 AM EDT
                    Reply
                    danny-3140462

                    I am afraid we are going to see more of this in these desperate times. I don't know which is worse. The fact that the man attacked the other or the fact that to be laid off in these times is comparable to a death sentence.

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#14 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:38 PM EDT
                    BXURZ

                    It's a zero sum game, either you have a job and eat or you don't and starve. This recession isn't like many before it where you could float yourself on some savings for 6-8 months and get reemployed. People have beeen waiting 1.5 - 2 years or more trying to get work. Those babyboomers 50+ may never get re-employed, what then,... Egyptian style uprising? Bring your walker and you placard.

                    • 1 vote
                    #14.1 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 6:36 PM EDT
                    Reply
                    Honor and Harmony

                    This is the feel good story of the day. Too many companies want to layoff instead of come up with a new business plan. The push back against the american plutocrisy will only get stronger.

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#15 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:58 PM EDT
                    tobiii

                    Ths was a "food services worker"...not some Tech job or skilled labor.

                    Business plan? Really? in food services??

                      #15.1 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 4:07 AM EDT
                      Reply
                      1devon

                      Hardly the right way to handle things. The boss who delivered the news may not have been the one to make the decision. Don't shoot the messenger.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#16 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:16 PM EDT
                      SLB-326604

                      The man should not have assaulted the supervisor delivering the news or anyone. Maybe the supervisor was a jerk, perhaps not. Was he a crappy employee? Maybe. Or was he a man who was trying to get back on his feet, trying to support himself or a family who just snapped? When he goes home and looks at himself or the faces of perhaps his children, asking himself what he's going to do about putting food on the table, taking care of health issues, keeping a roof over heads and holding together a car that may be beyond being held together. Maybe that was the day he came to work with an aching tooth that he can't get fixed and has been dragging himself to work with all the energy he has left to keep things together for another pay period only to get bad news.

                      My point is that there are both ends of the spectrum and there is the middle. I think the middle will continue to be pressed, will feel even more hopeless and will lash out.

                      America is already in a terrible, terrible, place. I love her but she's beyond being in a precarious position. If we don't start looking out for one another, we will perish. The "liberals" are just laying back and thinking of God knows what to no end and the "conservatives" are continuing their brand of single minded destruction.

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#17 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:26 PM EDT
                      Robert in Ohio

                      Well obviously the decision to let this young man go was in error.

                      The professionalism, business decorum and personal poise displayed by him as he was informed of a business decision clearly show that he was an asset to the business.

                      And who can question that with his respect for the management team and understanding of their role in the business that he was not a candidate for the manager training program.

                      When business picks back up, you gotta winder where he will be on the recall list.

                      A huge loss to the business and corporate America in general.

                      • 5 votes
                      Reply#18 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:30 PM EDT
                      Par4TheCourse

                      Lmao !!

                      Certainly a gentleman waiting to be invited to a social where much etiquette is displayed...

                      • 2 votes
                      #18.1 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:47 PM EDT
                      Robert in Ohio

                      Par4

                      And thanks for the response which nearly caused me to have to clean my monitor

                      Have a good weekend

                      • 1 vote
                      #18.2 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:05 PM EDT
                      Par4TheCourse

                      Robert ...

                      Your post lent itself to my comedy relief too... Appreciated.. You have a good weekend also...

                      I find wearing a doctors mask will stop that from happening to the monitor... however, fine particles will sieve through onto the keyboard... haven't quite figured that one out yet...

                      • 1 vote
                      #18.3 - Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:48 PM EDT
                      Robert in Ohio

                      Par4

                      Valued advice saved to my "What to Do If" file

                      Later

                        #18.4 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:26 AM EDT
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                        Merewen

                        Ahhh. I can understand how this guy felt. I once wanted to attack an AVP at my job because she was being sneaky and underhanded trying to get my co-worker fired. My co-worker had been out for a week with her sick 2 year old son who was hospitalized for the first half of the week with Swine Flu, Pneumonia, and a double inner ear infection all at the same time. The only thing that saved her was the fact that one of our other co-workers heard the AVP on the phone with HR.

                        I wish I could say that these situations are just anomolys, but employers all over the country are treating their employees like shoe @!$%# because they know these are desperate times.

                        • 4 votes
                        Reply#19 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:15 PM EDT
                        thinking aloud

                        So this is why they always had me do the firing...

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#20 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:00 PM EDT
                        damenochugokujin

                        That's why I always fire people on a Friday, statistics show less chance of an incident.

                        • 4 votes
                        Reply#21 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:32 PM EDT
                        Par4TheCourse

                        There was a company I worked for 30 or so years ago.. that use to throw a party and hand out pink slips

                        • 3 votes
                        #21.1 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:30 PM EDT
                        damenochugokujin

                        I believe it.

                        • 1 vote
                        #21.2 - Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:38 PM EDT
                        Reply
                        orange-756308

                        Whatever happened to " You can take this job and shove it!". That worked wonders for me in the past

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#22 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 8:41 AM EDT
                        Par4TheCourse

                        When we have an "Employee's Market" , instead of an Employer's Market... one could do that...

                        • 3 votes
                        #22.1 - Mon Apr 25, 2011 9:29 AM EDT
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