Forced flu shot policy leads to lawsuit

That would be rather irresponsible if they aren't sick. We've got enough drug-resistant bugs out there.

That would be rather irresponsible if they aren't sick.

So is forcing or using coercion to get the flu shot.

Requiring vaccinations of food service workers at a hospital is irresponsible? You lost me there.

Only 40% of healthcare workers, including doctors and nurses, get the influenza vaccine. There's a reason for that. And health authorities don't like it. Mandatory vaccinations will increase those percentages and give the hospital workers more authority when reccomending a vaccine they previously did not partake in.

If a person works in a facility built specifically for people who are ill why should they not be expected to take all precautions?

Since you believe everyone is vulnerable to vaccine diseases then why not have the hospital require all visitors to be up to date with vaccines or get the vaccine they don't have at the door? Or is that just over the line for you? Would not the unvaccinated or behind on booster visitor put the hypothetical " but vaccines will save their life" cancer patient at certain risk of imminent death?

We know that most of the vaccines work.. otherwise we would have more of what we are trying to protect against.

The flu vaccine's effectiveness is questionable and debatable.

A Shot of Fear

Flu Death Risk Often Exaggerated; So Is Benefit of Vaccine

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/22/AR2005102200042.html

"In the absence of good randomized trial data, it is still possible to gauge the effectiveness of vaccination by looking at time trends in flu vaccine rates compared with flu-related deaths in the elderly. As more people get vaccinated, you would expect the flu-related death rate to decline -- if the vaccine is effective. But, as the graph below, titled "A Windening Gap," shows, despite a dramatic increase in vaccination among the elderly, deaths from the flu and pneumonia have hardly budged. (The calculations have taken into account the aging of the population.)

For younger adults, flu-related death is so rare that it has not been reliably studied: Doing so would require a trial of millions of people."

life is a crap shoot.. better to have the devil you know.. than to have the devil that will kill you.

Living your life based on a catchy slogan is risky.

Since you believe everyone is vulnerable to vaccine diseases then why not have the hospital require all visitors to be up to date with vaccines or get the vaccine they don't have at the door?

The food service workers are handling the food patients will be eating. Visitors will pass through areas of the hospital never coming near many of the patients. They don't stop in each room to "share the love". Visitors can only be controlled to a degree but I would expect a bit more from the employees. When I'm sick I don't visit people in the hospital. How many hospital employees don't go in when they're ill?

So do you believe all restaurant employees should also be forced to comply with influenza vaccine mandates since they too will handle your food?

If they were catering to hundreds of people ill enough to warrant hospitalization, absolutely. Granted I will pass on food if I see the employee serving up the orders is sneezing everywhere but that's just because it grosses me out - not because I've got health problems going on.

Maybe we should mandate cockroach vaccinations also.

I would want a shot that would protect me against that..

I'd sign up for that shot! Speaking of gross restaurant employees - if they've obviously bathed in perfume you should probably consider that the perfume might be their substitute for soap.

I was thinking of my nephew's girlfriend when I typed that. She tends to work in wing joints and steakhouses. And bathes maybe once/week. Sleeps in her uniform. I never eat whereever she works :oP

I'll be getting mine this coming week and yeah I'll be sick for the rest of the winter if last year was any indication. I'm hoping that effect was just a "first-timer" reaction.

No, I meant that the cockroaches get vaccinated.

I got my flu shot today.. so I should have the flu in the next week or two..lol

2 things the vaccine apologists will say. First is deny that you actually have the flu without testing you OR say you didn't get vaccinated in time.

Second, they'll say your state of condition may be just like the flu; fever, aches pains, days off work, malaise, cachexia, etc. But it not THE flu it's influenza-LIKE illness. LOL.

Its the standard paradigm propaganda of defend vaccinations above all else. It couldn't possibly be that the flu vaccine has a low and unproveable effectiveness.

I'll be getting mine this coming week and yeah I'll be sick for the rest of the winter if last year was any indication. I'm hoping that effect was just a "first-timer" reaction.

Vaccine fail or... vaccine REACTION!

It almost seemed like it lowered my immune system and made me more susceptible to stuff. Of course it didn't help that my daughter's cousin kept giving her colds which she generously shared with mommy. Others have told me they had the same issue the first time they got it so I'm hoping this round will be better. I'd prefer to keep getting one since I've got a little one at home.

Others have told me they had the same issue the first time they got it so I'm hoping this round will be better.

Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice.....

How does having a lowered immune system exactly help out your little ones or yourself?

How does having a lowered immune system exactly help out your little ones or yourself?

I think it's worth a try to give it another chance. If I do better with it this year I'll keep getting it. Anything I can do to try to avoid passing something serious along to my daughter is okay by me. There is also another personal factor I have to consider which very well could have played a part in how my body handled it last year.