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Man Sentenced to Over 52 Years for Seven Bank Robberies in Tucson New York Man Started Serial Spree in Tucson Two Days After Completing 12-Year Sentence for Bank Heists

Seeded on Tue Mar 2, 2010 1:35 PM EST
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TUCSON, AZ—Joseph Diaz, 53, of New York, New York, was sentenced here today by U.S. District Judge Raner C. Collins to 52.5 years in prison. Diaz pleaded guilty to the indictment charging him with seven separate counts of bank robbery.

On October 17, 2008, two days after being released from prison, Diaz committed the first of seven bank robberies in Tucson. Diaz had been released from prison after serving a 12.5-year sentence for five prior bank robberies in the Los Angeles area, which was his second stint in prison for bank robberies dating back to the 1980s. After the first robbery in Tucson, Diaz proceeded to commit six more bank robberies, the last one on December 8, 2008. During each of the robberies, Diaz used intimidation by presenting a demand note and verbally demanding money from the tellers.

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Reply#1 - Tue Mar 2, 2010 1:35 PM EST
Soph0571

i think we can safely say that rehabilitation didn't work out well for this guy! i thought if you plead guilty you would get a reduced sentence? or is that a reduced sentence? if so as i have said before you Americans don't play!

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#1.1 - Tue Mar 2, 2010 3:23 PM EST
Par4TheCourse

Soph - Hey! We mean biz when a person commits a crime.. just wish it was harsher..

The guy is 53 .. hmmm I could honestly say - he got life

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#1.2 - Tue Mar 2, 2010 5:24 PM EST
Soph0571

just wish it was harsher..

Truly i think there is a balance - let him out at 80 - what can he do LOL. Although on a more serious note I don't see how these long sentences for so many can be economically sustainable for the community. How can that work when you guys are nearly as broke as us in the UK?

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#1.3 - Tue Mar 2, 2010 5:30 PM EST
Par4TheCourse

If the punishments were lenient.. after costing the taxpayer money to arrest, book, and then prosecute.. then letting them out to do it over again, then to arrest, book, and prosecute again.. and so on.. then it cost a lot to do that.. and in the meantime they have hurt someone again and again..

IF it were up to me - rapist, child molestors, child pornographers, any crime dealing with a child... any crime against women.. would be met with much more serious penalties.. I would take England's example.. find a deserted island that floods once a month at least, without any barriers or places for shelter from the weather.. they would be brought to the island.. and once a month if they survive the once a month floods, I would drop from a helicopter one gun with one bullet in it.

Aside from the people I mentioned.. there would be killers, drug dealers, and drug cartel members, and gang members..

No food, no protection, and no help.. that's where they would end up.. and I would have one gun ship off the coast, and their job would be to make sure no one enters the perimeter around the island...if any boat that is not authorized is within a certain distance without permission.. they are to blown out of the water.

This would send a specific message to all criminals near and far.. that the US will not tolerate crime. It would make criminals second guess or avoid doing a crime...

Women batterers would also be apart of that.. any crime that deals with having victims

B&E with a gun - on the island

B&E without a gun - prison

Bank robbery without a gun - prison

Bank robbery with a gun - on the island.

Australia was the UK's prison colony.. they had it correct..

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#1.4 - Tue Mar 2, 2010 5:57 PM EST
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Soph0571

I would take England's example.. find a deserted island that floods once a month at least, without any barriers or places for shelter from the weather.. they would be brought to the island.. and once a month if they survive the once a month floods, I would drop from a helicopter one gun with one bullet in it.

What century Par - certainly not the 21st? Par - they used to send people to Australia for stealing a loaf of bread! they used the decommissioned slave ships. however the difference was that they got paid up front for steerage - so where they had to try and get slaves to America to sell - they has no such obligation when transporting 'felons'. That meant months on end - living in @!$%# with people dieing all around you and not one breath of fresh air - It was most cost effective for people to die in transit than arrive in one piece. This period is a stain on our national character. you know I love ya but they did not have this correct ....it is a shameful period in our history

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Reply#2 - Tue Mar 2, 2010 6:10 PM EST
Par4TheCourse

Soph - I can understand the black mark in history. and I can understand not wanting it to be anything glorified or even possibly a topic that repeats itself.. yet.. in today's world with people doing much harm to others.. we must take crime more seriously it is getting out of hand.

Human rights also works in the reverse.. we must think of the victims to what they have gone through, and protect the innocent.. for some cases of minor crime.. Breaking and entering without hurting anyone or using a gun.. maybe these people can be restored to be a useful person.. or someone that steals from stores when they are open and get caught walking out the door.. or the person who has been using drugs and was hooked on them from some pusher/dealer.. they are victims in a sense.. and they steal to get money to buy their fix..

A message must be sent far and wide that crime like I mentioned before and these will not be tolerated... for gang members who are arrested over and over again.. they use it like a merit badge within the gang.. they are looked upon with high esteem from other members.. like a force to be reckon with.. in a gang.. This cannot be the symbols of the kids growing up and they see that they have to pay a small penalty in getting caught.. so they learn not to get caught.. harden criminals do not care.. many have friends on the inside.. its like a social circle within the walls of a jail in many cases.. they get their drugs in jail from crooked guards or brought in by visitors.. prison is not the cat's meow by any means.. but a consequence for their actions from which they learn newer tactics not to be caught.. they learn from the experience prisoners.. the ins and outs of how to break into a place and what to do to escape the onslaught of police going after them...

To some - its a game.. and to some people who have been in prison a long time and then released they repeat so they can go back because they cannot deal with being on the outside, they have no one.. they repeat to go back in...sometimes with much more serious crimes than the one that got them put inside in the first place.. But with all of these we have Victims.. and by releasing harden criminals those who would not think twice.. there are more victims before they are caught again..

I totally believe in the death penalty.. and harsher punishments..

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#2.1 - Tue Mar 2, 2010 6:39 PM EST
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