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Man faces prison for leaving water in desert

Seeded on Sun Dec 6, 2009 12:30 PM EST
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A US judge has threatened to sentence a man to 25 days in prison for littering after he left out jugs of water for thirsty illegal immigrants in the Arizona desert.

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Pvt-Public

He needs to be brought up on additional charges of "aiding and abetting" "promoting illegal activities" "conspiracy to commit illegal acts" and there is probably others that would apply also.

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Reply#1 - Sun Dec 6, 2009 1:03 PM EST
Jim Mahoney

Your ABSOLUTELY right ! To knowingly aid and abet any Illegal Alien in the United States is A crime as it should be. U.S Code § 1324. Bringing in and harboring certain aliens says it all and although there are MANY so called public servants elected to office both State and Federal whom choose to ignore this law IT IS a law punishable in a CRIMINAL court.

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#1.1 - Sun Dec 6, 2009 1:30 PM EST
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Leafydebater

wow. To both of them.

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Reply#2 - Sun Dec 6, 2009 1:06 PM EST
Captain Bill-1504740

compassion we are all of the same world

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Reply#3 - Sun Dec 6, 2009 1:52 PM EST
Par4TheCourse

Sorry... there are laws.. man needs law in order to try an be fair, and to have order in its people.. without laws then it would be a hellish society. I would leave the guy out in the desert without water.. and not there.. the deserts in Africa.

This guy did break the laws.. and what many people in this country do not realize - that Illegal means against the law... what PVT and Jim wrote is exactly what the guy did, and probably more.. If this was Iran.. his body would of been left in the desert.. sometimes I just wish we could mix in a few penalities/consequences as other countries do.. not completely getting rid of ours.. but as I mentioned the consequences being harsh for those who just do not get the idea that things that are illegal are not to be done.. it may get rid of some of the bad gene pool in this country.

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#3.1 - Sun Dec 6, 2009 3:02 PM EST
Pvt-Public

CaptainBill,

  • compassion we are all of the same world

Do you not think that drug smugglers also use the water left for the aliens, should I have compassion for the smugglers? What type of compassion do you suggest for when people start leaving guns, ammo, money to help the smugglers and illegals along on their way? And as a last thought they are not illegal immigrants, they are illegal aliens. Immigrants have authorization to be here, therefor not illegal.

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#3.2 - Mon Dec 7, 2009 7:39 AM EST
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ruthlessmoose

Couldn't he just ahve installed a water cooler?

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:31 PM EST
Zom Zom

Prosecuting people for empathy? What an atrocious miscarry of justice.

  • 3 votes
Reply#5 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:42 PM EST
Rainkiss

The above link does not tell the entire story.

In August, a judge ordered Staton to pick up trash for 300 hours and also sentenced him to a year of unsupervised probation and banned him from the refuge for a year.

Staton is a member of the group No More Deaths, which supports humanitarian aid along the border.

He was scheduled to be re-sentenced Friday after he told the U.S. magistrate last month that he objected to the court's punishment on moral and legal grounds.

But Magistrate Jennifer Guerin denied Staton's motion to modify or suspend his sentence pending appeal and threatened to double his community service hours to 600 hours or give him 25 days in prison.

Guerin has scheduled a probation violation hearing for Dec. 21.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/12/04/20091204border-water-ON.html

A man who put out water jugs in a wildlife refuge in the Arizona desert for illegal immigrants crossing from Mexico was convicted of littering and sentenced last week to probation and 300 hours of picking up trash, after he refused to pay a fine.

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Officials at the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge southwest of Tucson say they allow other groups to maintain water tanks at aid stations in the refuge, with official permits, but they say plastic bottles endanger wildlife and worsen a serious litter problem. The advocates say compassion needs no permits.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/16/opinion/16sun2.html

Quite simply, there ARE groups who leave water in that area. However, in order to maintain it as a public park, they are required to follow certain procedures, and not just leave plastic bottles lying around. It's not that he DID it, it's that he did it WRONG.

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Reply#6 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:02 PM EST
Dylan923

Prosecuting people for empathy? What an atrocious miscarry of justice.

Come on Zom Zom, you want to talk about miscarriages of justice? Then talk about the federal judges that are granting illegal immigrants the right to sue Arizona ranchers for civil rights violations for holding those illegals for authorities after catching them on their propoerty killling their livestock and trashing their ranches. Talk about the 2 Border Patrol agents who were sent to prison because one of them shot an escaping illegal in the ass. Talk about the fact that the government allowed this illegal back into the country to be treated at an ElPaso hospital at no expense.

What civil rights do illegal immigrants have when they'r not even citizens of this country, can you explain that to me or justify any of the above mentioned situations?

  • 1 vote
#6.1 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:26 PM EST
Zom Zom

What civil rights do illegal immigrants have when they'r not even citizens of this country

We have civil rights because human beings deserve them. We have them because some good people tried to do some good for other people. When we start saying "but we should only be decent to people born here, not fifty feet away," we stop being decent people.

I don't care about the law. I care about doing the right thing.

  • 1 vote
#6.2 - Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:28 PM EST
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